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Suggestion reducing solar system clipping while maximizing net-metered account setup

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Suggestion:

  • add a feature in the PV charge priority mode which allows the inverter to increase the "PV Charge Power" in the event that solar clipping would otherwise occur;
  • when enabled, PV charge priority would allow PV charge power to increase/decrease between set PV charge power and max PV output available as solar conditions vary
  • if feature not possible within PV Charge Priority then suggest creating new working mode that would allow this mode of operation

Background

System:

  • 15.6kW PV connected to 18kPV with 2x 14.3kWh EG4 indoor batteries with Gridboss

Grid connection & account type:

  • net-metered account with 10kW to grid limit;
  • Time of Use electricity account with lowest rates 11pm to 7am everyday & highest rates 4-9pm workdays (highest rate is approx 10x that of lowest rate)

working modes setup and logic: 

  • goal is to have batteries at 100% by 4pm daily without wasting solar & maximizing solar export to grid
  • 2300-0700 AC charge mode with weather optimize setup to charge batteries overnight during lowest rates
    • weather optimize SOC settings which allow for sufficient room to absorb any excess solar during the following day
  • 0700-1600 PV charge priority with PV charge power set sufficiently high to allow system to not clip solar output
  • 1600-2300 self-consumption mode to avoid highest electricity rate periods

issue:

  • when setting PV charge power to approx 2.5-4 kW, the system begins to charge batteries before reaching the 10kW max grid export and usually charges the batteries too much by the time max solar output hits later in the day
  • if the suggestion above could be implemented then I could set the PV charge power to zero which would allow solar to first power loads then grid export until such time that solar output increases sufficiently to maximize grid export; once at max grid export (or max combination of load/export reaches inverter's 12kW AC limit) then any excess PV could be directed to batteries

I have tried a number of different working modes however to date I have not been able to achieve what I am thinking is the optimal setup given the existing working modes.  If I have missed something regarding the other working modes, please feel free to offer some advice. 

Thanks,

Ian


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@eg4eric Thoughts?

I should add to the above background info that my house is fully electric using heat pump for winter heating & existing battery capacity can easily be used up in colder winter temps during the 4-9pm highest electricity rate period especially given the other electrical loads normally occurring during this time in the house.

 

Suggestion #2 (that could be stacked on top of the simpler idea above)

feature:

  • have a PV charge priority mode that will trigger based on SOC + time and have the SOC trigger vary based on calculated excess solar for the day (ie that portion of solar that would have otherwise been clipped if maxing out 18kPV's 12 kW output or reaching max grid export & batteries were already fully charged)
  • variable SOC trigger could initially be taken from the weather optimize feature however a better solution would be for the monitor app to learn over time the best SOC trigger setting that would allow for optimum capture of excess solar during a day
    • learned SOC trigger: a smarter weather optimize which would:
      • factor in the system's predicted solar production for the next day; &
      • allow the user to select the building's electrical consumption factors of influence (ie in my case it is largely dependent on HDD & CDD depending on the season:  HDD = heating degree days; CDD = cooling degree days; both of which are tied to the outdoor temperature)

working mode setup:

  • 2300-0700: AC charge mode to 100% SOC
  • 0700-1600: PV charge mode kicks in at variable SOC trigger otherwise system reverts to self consumption until the SOC trigger (goal is to have 100% SOC by 1600)
  • 1600-2300: self-consumption mode to avoid highest electricity rates

benefits:

  • would allow system owners to use AC charge mode to fully charge batteries using lowest overnight electricity rates then when higher rates kick in during the day (0700) system would initially run in self-consumption mode since:
    • battery SOC > PV charge priority trigger
  • at 0700, batteries would initially discharge covering loads until the SOC trigger at which point system would revert to PV charge priority
  • PV charge priority would then operate as per original suggestion above increasing/decreasing the PV charge power as solar output varies 
  • overall this would add a period in the morning that leverages the batteries stored electrical energy that had been charged using lower overnight rates but not allow the system to discharge lower than what can be put back into the batteries based on the calculated excess solar later in the day when PV system output is at its highest

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Perhaps my original suggestion (as well as suggestion #2) above would be better suited to be in their own working mode.  How about naming it "Grid Export Priority Mode".  This would make it clear to users that the intent of this mode is to maximize grid export for those using their system in a net-metered setup.


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