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6000xp bug in charge controller setpoint voltages with open loop

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yesterday I had closed loop and for some reason it went up and down 5 times from 55.6 to 53.9 v. I decided to go back to Lead Acid settings and it didn't act so good because it went down to float but then started climbing again to absorb. I shut off the pv inputs because I can divert them to direct pv loads. After both of those were off the inverter started giving me faults and shutting off and restarting the 240v inverter for no apparent good reason. The fault code was E019 Bus voltage too high which is weird since there was no pv going into it at the time. I shut everything down and restarted and it seems to be goign okay now. I reprogam via computer Maintenance screen. When I have done that I also notice that when I make changes to pv charge settings it will shut down the inverter. This has me wondering if the whole unit needs to be shut down and restarted after making any changes.  I do have a different charge controller on the same battery but I look at those and they will drop down as programmed to their float value - it is only the 6000XP that acts odd.  At first I did still have the closed loop cable still plugged in when I changed it to Lead Acid mode but that shouldn't make any difference - does seem like it since it was not displaying the bms SOC. Seems like maybe this inverter is geared more towards having AC input in it than being strictly off grid capable. The firmware really seems to act strange with just PV input and using the inverter.

 


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@ouijifour Yes, I agree that algorithm is sort of hit and miss. There are days where it sort of works, other not at all.  Frustrating...


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I'm a new 12000XP customer, and also shocked by the lack of a functioning Bulk/Float  feature for my SLA bank.   

I own a company selling wireless devices, and if we had that level of bug in our firmware it would be top of the list to fix!

Any updates from EG4's ?


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@jacobranchsystems-com same, really regret buying this.  I have FLA and the inverter says it works with them and has a built in charge controller, but obviously it shouldn't be.


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@jacobranchsystems-com I have the 6000xp and was amazed when I got it, and disappointed that the battery charging does not work very well. There is no absorb time in the lead acid mode.  But don't think that if you had lithium and were using closed loop that would work better. It seems to pick it's own float point even though the bms is set for a different setpoint - and the bms should dictate the charging. I thought so anyway. The inverter part seems to work fine -but the battery charging seems have been more of an afterthought than something well designed for off grid use. All the other grid or AC input setpoints - which are much more elaborate in user configuration , I don't use since I am off grid.


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I also have the problem that the Bulk/Float setting doesnt work.   Is there a new firmware for this now?  Jacob


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@dtbaker61: Did this issues ever get resolved - I have the same... thanks Jacob


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@jacobranchsystems-com there is an update available for the 6000xp that MAY fix the open-loop Li charging, but the 6000xps I have installed are very remote, and with no wifi or cell service. There is nothing available for 12000xp as far as I know.

It's getting pretty ridiculous that there is no reliable Li-friendly CC-CV charge possible open-loop. The 12000xp will hit and hold at "absorb", but never settles to float. Holding at 56v is NOT good for Li battery or BMS life, but you have to hit it to enable proper top-balancing to occur at low current.

I want to see CC-CV with end of charge at 56.4, and drop to float at 53.0 when batteries are full and sun is still out!

 


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@dtbaker61 well said about the problem.  I regret getting the eg4 6000xp . I just assumed that it was advertised as offgrid use and has closed loop that it would be modern and work great. I am just using the inverter part of it for now and using a Midnite Hawkes Bay and a Victron 450/100 controller . It would be nice to be able to use the two mppt in the 6000xp again.  Maybe Eg4 pushes new products out so quickly that they don't have the resources to fix the older stuff and make it work correctly. Or maybe it is not capable hardware wise. I still can't believe that the controller lacks the basic essentials for lead acid mode that have been around for such a long time - Absorb, Absorb Time, and Float.  Not to mention ending amps but I could do without that if there was an absorb time and if Float would stick until the next day.  I was hoping that closed loop would work, but it is a bit of a mystery what the 6000xp uses from the bms to make it's determinations. It certainly doesn't seem to follow the bms parameters all the time.


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@dtbaker61 Thanks - I'll be very curious to see if the fix for 6000xp actually fixes your problem, since I assume the firmware for 12000 is very close so the fix will make it there as well...


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