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Question 12000XP Smart Load Port in Grid Outage Config

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I have two questions around use of EV charger off of the 12000XP Smart Port (New install, Grid Power only, UPS Mode, No Solar, no AC Generator):

  • EV connected to Smart Port reports connection failure each night at 11pm which with daylight saving correlates to 12:00am. I have AC First mode running from 0:01 to 23:59 on P1 P2 and P3. Could it be as simple as making P2 be 23:59 to 0:01 to cover the two minutes or could  something else causing this behavior?

My use case is to charge the EV only when the Grid is available when car initiates the charge. EV charging is scheduled during the night but can be manually started any time of the day via the app or within the car. However the inverter requires start and stop SOC in the Smart Port settings (feature request: to turn this off and only use Grid Always On: Enable) so I was using 100% to 80% and the battery was at 100%. Which leads into the second question...

  • In simulating a grid outage I noticed EV - Smart Port remained energized. I figured the battery level must be taking priority over the grid outage and the Smart Port stayed active because of 100% battery SOC. I moved the Smart Load Start SOC below battery SOC and it still would not turn off the Smart Port during grid outage. Is there a way to configure the Smart Port to deenergize during a grid outage for my use case or something close to it?

Inverter Settings:

Smart Load: Enable

Start PV Power(kW) 0.0kW  << no Solar in this system

Grid Always On: Enable

Smart Load Start SOC(%) 85 << temporarily dropped from 100% for testing purposes (see second bullet above)

Smart Load End SOC(%) 80  

Firmware: ceaa-0507


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Update: my question 1 solution did work, still looking for a solution for Smart Port off when grid is lost.


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I found a workaround after much testing of the various settings and their interactions. Here is my final config:

Smart Load: Enable

Start PV Power(kW) 0.1kW  << changing this from 0.0kW was important -- could be a how firmware is handling null issue. This makes the PV minimum logic always be FALSE (no solar installed in my system). This setting reduced the problem to just the two SOC values below.

Grid Always On: Enable

Smart Load Start SOC(%) 100 << I did not learn anything useful from Start SOC testing, but the work around below makes this not much of issue for me until a future firmware solution arrives (i.e., Smart Port shuts off when grid AC Input is lost regardless of anything else).

Smart Load End SOC(%) 95  << Unlike Start SOC, this always turned off Smart Port as I expected. I am using the maximum End SOC value (which requires Start SOC to be 100%). This means I will lose 5% of the battery to the Smart Port/EV (when charge scheduled) in a Grid outage and I can live with that workaround.

Firmware: ceaa-0507 (maybe 0508 will fix the null PV too? Did not test.)

 

Hope this helps someone else from pulling their hair out in the future. Thank you for coming to my TEDTalk. 😎 


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Posted by: @jrscarlett

Smart Load End SOC(%) 95  << Unlike Start SOC, this always turned off Smart Port as I expected. I am using the maximum End SOC value (which requires Start SOC to be 100%). This means I will lose 5% of the battery to the Smart Port/EV (when charge scheduled) in a Grid outage and I can live with that workaround.

Is this still the best you've been able to do?  I don't care about losing 5% of my battery, but my problem is that my EV, on its own with no other loads in the house, exceeds the maximum output capacity of the inverter on battery alone, though it could be charged if I had enough PV available (the FlexBoss ESS+PV output is higher than ESS only), or with a generator added.  

The only workaround I can think of is to reduce the EV charge rate, which would be annoying.  I'm more concerned with power than energy here.

 


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@rich0 I use a NEMA 14-30 plug but dial back the amperage on the car to 19amps. I start charging after 10pm when most large loads are complete. As long as your car is charged before you need it in the morning there is no downside to reducing the amperage.


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