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My current configuration is a eg4 18kpv with 6 eg4-ll batteries. I’m connected to the grid. I plan to add pv but at present the system is my backup when the grid fails. I’m in the Allegheny national forest so power outages are a regular occurrence. 
since I installed the system I’ve had 2 times where during a grid outage  the soc drops and the batteries are unavailable. I was not there both times, but when I drive there I find the batteries showing 0 soc and once I cycle the bms breakers the inverter begins to charge the batteries. The grid consumption is 30kw+ house usage.  So the batteries were drained. The data history doesn’t show anywhere near 30kw of consumption from the batteries for the months prior to each event. And there is charging activity seen in the data.

normal grid consumption when I’m not at the cabin is less than 1kw per day. 

I probably have something incorrect in my settings but where does 30kw go? No evidence that it was mistakenly sent to the grid or to ground. No sign of arcing, melting wires, heat damage.

when I shut the grid breaker in testing the sub panel remains energized and the circuits all function properly.

 


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EG4 Eric
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I can definitely review some data for you. However, please note that the batteries do not remain fully charged, as the inverter has its own power consumption and draws from the batteries. As a result, performance will depend on how frequently the batteries are charged and their state of charge at the time of a grid outage.


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Eric my sites name is “wilds” serial # 3464660834

i do appreciate that the inverter will consume battery power during 

the dates of the outages are 11/29/2025 and 06/04/2025

here is a screenshot from the app on my iPad note the inverter sees soc as 87% while the batteries show 0%

 

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@bobinforest 

I have an identical system - one 18Kpv and six LL-S batteries used as EPS standby - there is no PV. This is a battery backup system only. Your system is draining the batteries by 6% per day from standby current, and this amount is not registered as a drop in SOC by the BMS. i.e. the SOC drift in this scenario is very bad and it causes the batteries to be depleted while the reported SOC remains very high, nearly 100%. The solution is to switch your settings to voltage charging control and not use SOC control. Try these settings:

Battery Backup Mode: Enabled

Batt Charge Control: Volt

Start AC Charge Volt: 53

Stop AC Charge Volt: 56

With Battery Backup enabled, the inverter will do a brief charge about once per hour to replace the EPS standby power being consumed, keeping the batteries topped up. You should see vBat being kept above 54V as in this graph from my system. Note that if you enable battery backup but leave the system in SOC control instead of volt control, then this periodic recharge will not occur, and the battery bank will lose about 6% per day.

 

vBat above 54v

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@bobinforest

To answer the question "where did the 30kWh of power go"... the 18Kpv consumes 1.8kWh per day in EPS standby energy (i.e. 6% of your 30.7 kWh battery bank). Note this is 75 watts of continuous power, consistent with the specs in the manual for EPS consumption. That small current spread across six batteries is about 1/4 amp of discharge per battery. The battery BMS ignores any current less than 0.5A for the purposes of SOC calculations, which explains why your battery bank lost 30kWh without affecting the reported SOC level. Once the battery hits a low voltage alarm condition, the BMS immediately resets the SOC reference to 0%. As soon as the SOC reference has been reset, the drift behavior begins again. This SOC drift behavior is exactly why you need to use voltage and not SOC for all of your control settings. You should get in the habit of looking at voltage rather than SOC whenever you are looking at the state of your system.


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