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[Solved] My off-grid 12000XP 3-phase system had arc fault on non-connected MPPT, won't come out of standby

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I've got a 3-inverter off-grid 12000XP system hooked up to 6 indoor batteries (84kWh). I'm gradually installing strings of 8 375W panels to build out a 48-panel system, in the process of doing so the (+) wire from a not-yet-hooked-up MPPT on one of the inverters arced to the grounded corrugated roof, I forgot to tape off the end of the wire:

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It was a bit surprising to me that an MPPT with no panels connected would arc like that. The inverter showed an overcurrent error in the logs and despite a full-system power down (all breakers and switches off, left off for 10 minutes) the inverter is still stuck in standby mode after booting up. Thankfully the two other inverters are able to supply all my needs. Does anyone know how to get the 12000XP out of standby? The fault condition is resolved (electrical tape on the ends of the wires).


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@gigadude

Are you getting any error or warning on the inverter?

Do you have the inverter online? If so, can you share the inverter serial number so I can look into this?


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@eg4eric I got a support call this morning at 6:30am my time, they weren't able to diagnose online so I was supposed to get a call back at 9 but didn't. I'm going to be unreachable for the rest of the day, if there's some diagnostic I can perform here could you give me instructions to do so? I'm an engineer by training and know how to use a multimeter.


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Hi Eric, yes it's online, I don't see warnings or errors other than the over-current warning in the log. 43730P0310 is the one that's stuck in standby, BGR is the station.


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@gigadude 
Are these inverters wired to work in parallel? or are they separate systems?


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@eg4eric they're wired as a 3-phase system, the inverter having problems is the master. I was out this afternoon and when I came back around 9pm my time my inverters were all in standby, was that something somebody at your end did? I was able to power-cycle them and get my power back on.


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@gigadude 
I put the inverters in parallel, and it seems to be pulling wattage from all 3 inverters. 

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I will put them back into single view, but if you want to see them in parallel, just hit the parallel button on the top left of the screen under SYSTEM INFORMATION

Can you share how the system is wired?


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@eg4eric it's wired as inverter #1 (the one having problems) to L1/L2, #2 to L3/L1, #3 to L2/L3, the 6 batteries are currently connected using the paralleling cables to form one big battery bank with inverter #1 as the master. I'm aware of the recommendation to use fuses & busbar for this configuration, I do plan to eventually do that. During daylight hours I see #1 "producing" 56W of power from the MPPT that isn't hooked up to anything, I see ~300V on the string that is hooked up but 0W. I don't see any power feeding from #1 into my panel, EPS is 0W on both legs.

It's not the most clear photo but it shows the conduit open, #1 is double-cabled to battery 1, #2 to battery 3, #3 to battery 5, there's a single cable pair between each battery:

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If the FETs are blown in #1 is there a way to replace the circuit board(s) in question without tearing down the inverter and sending it in for repairs? I haven't opened the main enclosure to take a look due to the "invalidates warranty" stickers.


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@gigadude 
I would have to double check if we can send a replacement board or if the whole inverter would need to be replaced. 

Have you tested voltage on the PV input?

Are all the PV Disconnects on, for each inverter (located on the side of the inverter)?

Also, are you able to share more pictures of the front of the inverters? If possible, also sharing the wiring diagram. I just want to make sure I have everything we need in case we need to replace it.


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@eg4eric 

Hi sorry it took a while to get the info, here's the wiring diagram

 

 

The SP ovals are Midnite Solar 600V DC surge suppressors, there are also 3 Midnight Solar AC surge suppressors wired at the main panel across the 3 phases. The Load legs are wired to a pair of 50A 3-phase breakers at the main panel. The main panel is bonded to an Ufer ground in the slab, all other equipment grounds are wired to the main panel. The yellow lightning bolt shows where the arc to ground happened, at that time there were no panels hooked up on the U inverter's MPPT #2 lugs, there was a string of 8 panels wired into the MPPT #1 lugs and the PV disconnect was on (connected).

Since the fault I've installed the remaining panels, all of the PV inputs are showing reasonable voltage during sunlight hours, when I try turning on the disconnect on the U inverter it shows 50W charging from MPPT #2 and 0W from MPPT #1. I'm leaving that inverter disconnected till this is resolved, the other two inverters seem to be operating normally and charging the batteries etc.


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@eg4eric was the diagram sufficient? I need to get my bad inverter up and running again, I've been hitting overload shutdowns with my water heater due to colder temps requiring more power. 


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@eg4eric I think this topic was mistakenly marked "solved", I still need help getting my inverter fixed. Was the circuit diagram I sent sufficient or do you need more detail?


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@gigadude I am going to get with our team about this and show them the wiring diagram. I will let you know if we need anything else.


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@eg4eric I had a licensed electrician do the wiring between the main panel and the inverters, I did the wiring to the panels and cabled the batteries together. The system has been running for over a year without any problems up until the arc incident.


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