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Breaking EG4 14.3kWh indoor wall mount battery BMS comms issues - resulting in blackouts, power blips, and charging restarts

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@natwall1 

If you have the Indoor Wall Mount batteries read the post from "Krzysiek_KTA" above. The solution he found to the brown outs that we were experiencing were solved when we got the Firmware for the batteries updated. He was able to do the update, I don't have the skill set required so my installers got the equipment (cables and a electronic box) and updated the Firmware. Works as described above. (You must shutdown and restart the system several times.)



   
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Certainly, thank you so much! I don't think I have a Ticket #, have simply been emailing back and forth with their tech support? or maybe I'm missing something. But my Serial # 51200E0399  . I have 6 of those EG4 batteries in a rack, not wall mount, and only have the Flexboss 21, not Gridboss (just trying to make sure I had explained my system accurately). Again, THANK YOU. I am hoping you can help me figure this out.



   
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@natwall1 
I would recommend updating the firmware! Most of the time the firmware update resolves this issue, other than that the settings look good and if the firmware doesn't fix it, we can continue troubleshooting with looking at how everything is wired.



   
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@eg4eric Thank you for suggesting this. Do you happen to have a link to instructions on how I should do that? I am assuming you are talking about the Flexboss firmware, and not the batteries also, is that correct?



   
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@natwall1 
You can update the inverter through the app or through the Monitor center (website)

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Reviving the thread.

 

After over 6 months flawless operations in Lithium type 1 mode the issue resurfaced this month. I had few nighttime charging interruptions earlier this month and today for the first time since last year the power blip occurred during daytime when I am operating in true off grid mode.

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I think it might be a time to deep power cycle the system again.

My plan is to switch to lead acid mode cycle the battery 100-0-100% perform deep power cycle and switch back to Lithium type 1

 

Will post the outcome.

 

Brgds

 

K. 

 


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SO I made BIG mistake.

 

since I was to work with the Setup I decided to upgrade firmware. it showed successful and after 30min all shut down.

AND

00 internal communication error occurred and the system is down.

 

The battery is Full visible in the app but the inverter doesn't power up the house

 

What a mess....



   
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@! EG4 Eric

 

Can you downgrade my 600xp to previous firmware ASAP!



   
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What I was thinking initiating firmware upgrade on the Weekend!?!!?

 

I guess I had way too much trust in EG4 that it actually works as intended.

 

K



   
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Firmware problem solved - see my other post in firmware section.

I have deep power cycled inverter, battery and BMS and switched back to Lithium type 1.

Will report if the  'blip' issue is solved

 

Brgds

 

K

 



   
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@ EG4 Eric - pls disregard my previous firmware downgrade request - let's see if the latest one holds

 

Brgds

 

K



   
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Deep power cycling the battery, BMS and Inverter did not solve the 'blip' issue.

Switched back to Lead Acid mode for a time being. Will try to update the battery firmware  and power cycle again sometimes in the future.

 

Brgds

 

K

 

 



   
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Well,

I decided to give it a shot and update the battery firmware through EG4 monitoring app - the most recent inverter firmware supports that.

The result = totally bricked BMS of the indoor 280kWh battery, despite the EG4 Website monitoring  website says the update was successful.

(BTW the deep power cycling won't help, there is no change after repeated attempts)

In principle the BMS damage is done - no subsequent "successful updates initiated by myself or the Signature Solar Tech Support  helps.

Moreover the 'manual" USB-RS232 updates I succeeded before failed.

 

 

The Indoor battery BMS is dead. Luckily I can still use the battery in 'manual' Lead Acid mode. Hope the case I raised with SS get raised and the problem is eventually rectified.

hope it gets resolved sooner or later....

 

Brgds

 

K

 

 

 

 



   
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@Krzysiek_KTA

I had the same issues ~ 4months ago that I thought i had fixed. Unfortunately, today they started up again.

https://forum.eg4electronics.com/community/forum/odd-12000xp-behavior-when-coming-off-grid-charge-to-solar-battery-mode/paged/2/#post-20699

Ignore the title of the article.

- The actual issue was that the batteries lose communication at seemingly random times. I do see some correlation with this happening during peak PV input times.

- The inverter decides to make a panic decision to cutover to grid power (Im using grid backup on my system)

- It's not clear what makes the inverter decide to resume back to regular operation even though communication starts back up soon after.

My issue appeared to be resolved after updating everything to latest firmware, ensuring everything was wired correctly, and then power cycling everything.

HOWEVER --- it started again today. 🙁

System :

2x 12000xp  running in parallel.

6x eg4 wallmount indoor 280AH batteries in shared mode.



   
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An UPDATE,

I managed to restore my BMS bricked by EG$ monitor site firmware update tool.

The successful RS232 firmware update did nothing, only after updating RS458 firmware afterwards the BMS came to life - alt least locally. So I followed my previous footsteps and deep power cycled the system couple times and all came back to life as last lime in 2025.

I am Yet to see is the underlying BMS comms issue which made me to update the firmware is resolved 

I am expecting to receive the firmware updater from EG4 Tech support as the online tool simply brick the BMS the PC based setup is cumbersome.

I am back online and off-grid in Lithium Type 1 mode - let's see for how long.

Brgds

K



   
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